HIE’s campervan park in Coire na Ciste at Cairn Gorm

September 19, 2021 Alan Brattey 7 comments

The Cairngorm National Park Planning Committee saw fit to grant Cairngorm Mountain [Scotland] Ltd (CMSL), Highland and Island Enterprise’s wholly owned subsidiary, permission to set up a Campervan Park in Coire na Ciste on Cairn Gorm. That consent was granted on 21 May 2021.

CMSL indicated to the planning committee that they might be able to have it up and running by the end of July. However, it didn’t open for business until Monday 6 September so revenue from the main holiday month of August was lost as well as the opportunity to provide a new facility for tourists.

Parkswatch has previously had a look at the condition of the Coire na Ciste car park and environs (see here) and (here).  This post takes a look at:

  1. What has been done to Improve the condition of the Ciste car park and environs.
  2. The facilities that have been provided for Campervan/Motorhome owners/renters who choose to pay £15 for a 1-night stay.
  3. The usage rates within the Ciste Campervan Park and the displacement to other locations.

The condition of the car park and environs

The bridge over the Allt na Ciste remains broken and prevents easy access to the East Ciste paths.  Photo credit Alan Brattey.
The Ciste base station building remains unsafe.  Photo credit Alan Brattey.
Ring main above the car park.  Photo credit Alan Brattey.

The ring main cable has not been reburied [despite Scottish & Southern Energy Networks saying that it would be, during the summer, which is now over] and the ‘Danger of Death’ notices remain in place. Note how the sandbags are now all burst…waiting for the winter rains and snow-melt to wash the sand away.

The Grouse Butt viewpoint appears to have had some repair work done but it is far from complete. Photo credit Alan Brattey.
The car park roadway continues to be in a poor state.  Photo credit Alan Brattey.

First impressions that owners/renters form as they drive into the car park will not be good.   Some screeding work has been done but it does little to improve the ground conditions within the campervan park.

It is clear that nothing meaningful has been done by HIE or CMSL to improve the car park or environs in advance of the campervan park being opened for business and they continue to be in a demonstrably poor state.

 

Facilities

The information Board at the entrance, with environmentally friendly wood surround.  Photo credit Alan Brattey.
The barrier across what is/was a public road.  Photo credit Alan Brattey.

There is a coded entry system whereby users received the code to open the gate after they have paid the fee for parking the night in there.

Inside the ‘compound’ users will find nicely clad bins for disposing of rubbish in an environmentally friendly manner.

Photo credit Alan Brattey.

There is also a water supply

This sign was still there on 18th September 2021.                       Photo credit Alan Brattey

There is some dubiety about whether or not it can be called ‘clean’  Can that be considered to be acceptable, given the hefty £15 per night charge.

There is also a ‘grey water’ disposal facility

Photo credit Alan Brattey.
Photo credit Alan Brattey.
The “clean” water facility on the left, the grey water disposal facility on right

The clean and grey water facilities are very close together.  A commentator on CMSL’s facebook page suggested the two are too close and there is a risk of the clean water facility being contaminated.  Instead of answering the concenrs, CMSL staff  removed the comment.

Apart from these facilities, there are no electric hook up points so no recharging can be done.  There are also no toilets/showers or a café bar. Notably, the Ciste building does have power and water and could be reconstructed to provide these facilities. Regrettably, HIE [as owners] have twice gained planning consent to demolish and partly reconstruct the building but they’ve allowed that consent to lapse…twice. How difficult would it be to get plans made for a nice new building and offer the services that would greatly enhance the product/service offering and doubtless lead to considerable increased usage of the park by allowing those without onboard toilet to stay there?

The creation of a small campsite for tents would also be beneficial, as has proved to be the case at Glencoe Mountain, but the noticeboard tells campers to keep well away………potentially displacing them into the important areas for capercaillie below!

 

Usage Rates

The numbers using the car park were monitored over the 7- day period from Friday 10 September to Thursday 16 September.  Additionally, the numbers parking up in the Coire Cas car park and at the side of the ‘down’ road were also noted. Observations were made at around 7pm each evening so they do not take account of any later arrivals.

22 campervans were recorded in the Ciste site over the period. That was made of 1, 4, 6, 0, 3, 4 & 4 from Friday to Thursday.

The Ciste campervan park on Thursday evening, 16 September 2021. There was one other campervan, out of shot.  Photo credit Alan Brattey.

During the same time period, there were 71 campervans recorded in the Coire Cas car park.  That was made up of 8, 14, 14, 9, 9, 10, 7.

The Cas car park on Thursday 16 September 2021. There were 2 other campervans, out of shot.  Photo credit Alan Brattey.

In addition, a total of 52 campervans were observed  parked along  the verge on the ‘down’ road.

The ‘down’ Road on Thursday 16 September 2021. There were four others, out of shot.  Photo credit Alan Brattey.

In studies done by the Save the Ciste campaign over four separate 1-week periods in 2019 and 2020 it was noted that the number of campervans in the Ciste car park was: 59, 97, 133 & 87. During the same time periods the numbers parked in the Cas car park were: 3,18, 23 & 19. The greatest number recorded in the Cas car park on any evening was 8.

Perhaps CMSL expected that campervan owners/renters would simply continue to use the Coire na Ciste car park and be happy to pay £15 per night for a dodgy water supply, a grey water disposal facility and some bins to dispose of their rubbish. If that was the case then they could not have been more erroneous in their judgement.

There is no quality here and discerning customers are entitled to expect much better than what is third-rate apology for a campervan park. Although it is very early days, the Ciste campervan park is clearly being avoided by the overwhelming majority of users who have simply decamped to the Cas car park and the down road where they can park up for free. The statistics tell that story very clearly.

What needs to happen now

  1. The Scottish Government should take note of yet another expensive waste of public funds and take the decision to remove HIE from all Operational and Strategic decision-making on Cairn Gorm. Enough is more than enough.
  2. The members of the CMSL Board of Management must have agreed to this failure and they should each consider if they have the skills to make successful strategic decisions.
  3. The Aviemore and Glenmore Community Trust should be invited to take over the entire Cairngorm Estate and business thereon. They need to be given a free hand and sufficient public funding must be provided to enable them to sort out the ongoing shambles and put the business into a self-sustaining position [rather than HIE’s ridiculous business plan that provides for an ongoing subsidy over the next 30 years]
  4. The Coire Ciste building needs to be redeveloped so that toilets and showers are available. A café bar would be a great enhancement.
  5. The other dilapidations around the campervan park require to be rectified.
  6. No attempt should be made to ban campervans from the Coire Cas car park or the Down Road. CMSL has no need to alienate another group of potential customers as has been the case with snowsports enthusiasts.

Only by making the required improvements can the campervan park have any realistic hope of being a commercial success.

7 Comments on “HIE’s campervan park in Coire na Ciste at Cairn Gorm

  1. It seems the response to the campervan boom in Scotland is to charge 10 – 15 pounds for no or minimal facilities and 25+ for an actual campsite. Meanwhile Argyll and Bute has applied for a blanket TRO for many of its rural car parks, the notice doesn’t specify what for but it is bound to be “No overnight parking”. More seriously, this summer CalMac announced that they would only accept campervans on services to Mull with proof of a pre booked campsite for the period – so what is effectively a state transport monopoly will only allow you to travel if your reasons are acceptable to them.
    I also noticed a banner outside Clachan Seil “Help Stop Covid 19” which included “Take your litter home” and “No illegal overnight parking”, if there was any doubt that some people are using the pandemic to push their own agenda.

  2. When I was there earlier this month, the new car park barriers had been installed on the Cas car park but were not in use. As and when they are commissioned, there will be no free parking and my guess is that many people will park on the ski road to avoid paying a parking fee. However, I wouldn’t put it past HIE to yellow line the road and force people into the car park. The sooner HIE is removed from the management of Cairngorm the better

  3. I have a campervan and consider these ‘facilities’ to be vastly overcharged for. I would park elsewhere too. Why not do what they do in other countries. Free parking, or even just a fiver, free toilet waste facilities. Charge for electricity and fresh (properly clean) water. People will pay to get services. Paying over the odds to Park in a grotty car park with no toilet is not at all attractive. It claims it is ‘secure’. What is secure about it? Is there a security guard? Is there an emergency phone number. If someone tries to nick my van while I’m on the hill Can they just drive it out of the barrier when someone else comes in? This is a poorly thought out idea and is not a solution to the problem at all.

  4. Once again HIE have proved their unsuitability to run Cairngorm mountain.
    Anywhere else in Industry or Commerce these people would be out of a job.
    Why is Cairngorm mountain immune to scrutiny ???????
    I have a campervan which can survive quite well for 4 days completely off grid, 6 with a spare toilet cassette. What I want is a secure service point. £15 for this or £25 in a campsite…..That’s a no brainer.
    Install decent washing facilities, level parking, Charging points, and people would use it.
    Right now its little better than parking on a building site.

  5. We ‘tried’ to stay here last night. The infrastructure is appalling and the whole thing is a farce. They only allow 3 time slots to access the camper van site – 1pm, 5pm and 8 pm (this is actually an improvement on the initial 11am only slot). We arrived at 6pm and there was one camper van in front of us trying to book in. Despite the camper van park being almost empty (only one camper van that I could see), the access code is not given out less than 30 minutes before booking. There was nothing indicating this on the signage and it wasn’t very apparent on their website. The chap in front of us had paid then had 1.5 hours to kill before he could get into the site. By this time two other camper vans had pulled up behind us. Once we realised how ridiculous this was we all about turned and moved up to Coire Cas. The barriers are now installed there too but open as soon as you drive up to them. My husband is an engineer and questioned their robustness to withstand a Cairngorm winter but will leave that for another subject.
    I counted 19 campervans up at Coire Cas. Assuming they all paid their donation then that would have been £38 revenue compared to a potential £285 if the Ciste car park was less complicated and more appealing.
    In addition, on a busy day, assuming all 50 spaces are rebooked (highly likely in the summertime), then even at best you’ll have 16/17 campervans all turning up at once to gain access. With just four camper vans queued up, the line was already backing out onto the road causing an obstruction. With us all turning around this is an accident waiting to happen. This doesn’t even take into account those who turn up on spec as is the norm of campervanning.
    I cannot believe how badly wrong they’ve gotten this. It would actually be easier to do a good job than this ill thought out farce that has missed revenue from the busiest of summer months.
    I don’t mind paying for facilities but the place is a mess and as already pointed out, the waste and fresh water are too close together.
    I tried looking at the planning application to see the design but there was nothing on the gates nor the waste management facilities. I cannot believe this was actually approved given the hoops anyone else has to go through to do anything within the national park area.
    The whole area is an embarrassment to Scotland. Even up at the Cas carpark they have located the ugly snow making machines and generators right in front of the main cafe building completely spoiling the view.
    The sooner there is a community buyout the better. I won’t be returning anytime soon.

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